Curse

lyra_song · Feb 05, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4605202.stm

EchoSex · Feb 05, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

I like Green Eggs and Ham.

darkMishkin · Feb 05, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

This reminds me of one of the many amazing sequences in the BBC series Life in the Undergrowth. David Attenborough walking round the desert with an UV torch, and every 50cm his beam reveals another bloomin deadly scorpion...

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8...orpion13wy.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/790...orpion22ko.jpg

Marik-Strife · Feb 05, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Old news about teh green pigs...
Scorpion thing is kinda interesting.

Omega Complex · Feb 05, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Scorpion thing, thats darn creepy.

Tur713 · Feb 05, 2006, 08:18 PM // 20:18

I want a green pig.

Jiao Yang · Feb 05, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

If they got the green gene from a Jellyfish... will green ham taste like apple jelly? I Like apple jelly.

I am universally friendly-
Jelly=Jello.

fiery · Feb 05, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

ya this is animal cruelty... they do the same thing to fish.. call it a color morph.. or call it injecting a fish with dye.

EchoSex · Feb 05, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by fiery

ya this is animal cruelty... they do the same thing to fish.. call it a color morph.. or call it injecting a fish with dye.

Animal Cruelty? I hope to God you're kidding. They injected pig EYMBROs with a cell to ENHANCE it. Calling that "cruelty" is like calling having your nails panted murder. And it's not like it isn't being done for a greater cause: It's to help with the fact that stem cells CAN CURE CANCER. And it's not like the pigs are suffering - infact they're happy and healthy, as you can plainly see.

Think before you speak. Science isn't as evil as everyone thinks it is.

fiery · Feb 06, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Animal Cruelty? I hope to God you're kidding. They injected pig EYMBROs with a cell to ENHANCE it. Calling that "cruelty" is like calling having your nails panted murder. And it's not like it isn't being done for a greater cause: It's to help with the fact that stem cells CAN CURE CANCER. And it's not like the pigs are suffering - infact they're happy and healthy, as you can plainly see.

Think before you speak. Science isn't as evil as everyone thinks it is.

Who said it was evil? Did the pigs wanted to be injected? Did they have a choice? Yes stem cell research helps. But didn't they start doing it with BABIES, UNBORN FETUSES AND EVEN FETUSES BEGINNING TO GROW. If you want science let it take its course and find a cure to not limit the lives of others. For all you know its affecting them. Are you a doctor? Are you the pig under study? There being injected with chemicals we dont know. They are being under study, hundreds of pigs are being injected, so im thinking of course not this isnt animal creulty. Its a bunch of guinea pigs for there lives to either help mankind or die. I mean the cause is great, all i said was animal cruelty to lock up hundreds of pigs and start doing tests on them.

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So if, for instance, some of its stem cells are injected into another animal, scientists can track how they develop without the need for a biopsy or invasive test.

But creating them has not been easy. Many of the altered embryos failed to develop.

This means the pig was not able to give birth or the injection affected nature. It affected its body. 265 injected now has the chemical running through its body and only 3 gave birth. The statistics either points to defect is preagnativity or the pigs body either overpowered or rejected the embyro.

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They injected pig EYMBROs with a cell to ENHANCE it.

Enhance it MAYBE, they can say what they want, are we there? Are we studying the pig themself? Who knows what will happen in years to come? You cant just say for example a slaughter factory. " O ya pigs are just slaughtered in a factory" but in fact many can be dirty, dieseaes from left to right, rats,the news doesnt post every detail to the media. They cover lies to stop the press.

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And it's not like the pigs are suffering - infact they're happy and healthy, as you can plainly see.

Wow,they are not suffering, OF COURSE they arent. Im staring at a picture looking for pain and suffering of course they are happy and healthy.Im checking there blood and organs right now,woot healthy as a horse.

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Think before you speak. Science isn't as evil as everyone thinks it is.

Are we gods? Are we even GOD? Shall man toy with a new generation of life, clones as it is, the sheep was cloned first.That is not God's work that is man. Clones were to stop starvation,science helps but all im saying its the animals who suffer,science is not evil, its proof.

EchoSex · Feb 06, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by fiery

who said it was evil.. did the pigs wanted to be injected? did they have a choice? yes stem cell research helps.. but didnt they start doing it with BABIES, UNBORN FETUSES AND EVEN FETUSES BEGINNING TO GROW...if you want science let it take its course and find a cure to not limit the lives of others...for all you know its affecting them.. are you a doctor.. are you the pig under study? there being injected with chemicals we dont know.. they are being under study.. hundreds of pigs are being injected.. so im thinking of course not this isnt animal creulty.. its a bunch of guinea pigs for there lives to either help mankind or die.....i mean the cause is great.. all i said was animal cruelty to lock up hundreds of pigs and start doing tests on them.

this means the pig was not able to give birth or the injection affected nature... it affected its body..... 256 injected now has the chemical running through its body and only 3 gave birth..the statistics either points to defect is preagnativity or the pigs body either overpowered or rejected the embyro.

enhance it MAYBE.. they can say what they want.. are we there? are we studying the pig themself? who knows what will happen in years to come? you cant just say for example a slaughter factory. " o ya pigs are just slaughtered in a factory" but in fact many can be dirty...dieseaes from left to right.... rats.... the news doesnt post every detail to the media.. they cover lies to stop the press.

wow... they are not suffering.. OF COURSE they arent.. im staring at a picture looking for pain and suffering of course they are happy and healthy....im checking there blood and organs right now...woot healthy as a horse.

are we gods? are we even GOD? shall man toy with a new generation of life...clones as it is. ...the sheep was cloned first.... that is not God's work that is man... clones were to stop starvation...science helps but all im saying its the animals who suffer...science is not evil.. its proof.

and now i shall eat dinner.

So, YOU'RE a doctor? No? Oh, okay - but these people who did this ARE. And they DO know what they injected, they DO know what they're doing and they do NOT harm the pigs.

OH, and they didn't ask for it? NO SHIT! They're pigs! We didn't ask for the polio vacine and other advantages, but we get it anyways, gratefully.

Injecting a FETUS of a PIG, with a non-harmful substance that only has advantages without a disadvantage is NOT cruelty. If you want cruelty I can show you - that'd be just doing something without any intention of use - example, killing without eating.

Again, think before you speak.

fiery · Feb 06, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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So, YOU'RE a doctor? No? Oh, okay - but these people who did this ARE. And they DO know what they injected, they DO know what they're doing and they do NOT harm the pigs.

OH, and they didn't ask for it? NO SHIT! They're pigs! We didn't ask for the polio vacine and other advantages, but we get it anyways, gratefully.

Injecting a FETUS of a PIG, with a non-harmful substance that only has advantages without a disadvantage is NOT cruelty. If you want cruelty I can show you - that'd be just doing something without any intention of use - example, killing without eating.

Again, think before you speak.

Of couse im a doctor i wouldnt be talking if i wasnt now would I? Doctors yes, injection no.
As i said the matter is finding a cure yet it deems to be animal creulty underneath,lock up the pigs to save the many,science helps who said it didnt.

Polio comes and goes, we get new viruses each day,and science is there. Seems like you stay on the subject that science helps a ton and its not animal cruelty.

You just cant admit locking up hundreds of pigs injection and messing with there offspring is not animal cruelty.Your intentions are right but not for the love for animals its for man.All i said was its animal cruelty to captive pigs and run tests.
Mankind has done it for years,decades,its never gunna end,science kept mankind alive,but its still animal cruelty.

Can't you see,you hack at something but you always get something to fight back at you.Mankind started on the fetuses of women, and they got the press,abotion abolisments,women activists,so they moved off the women. USA started banning the death of fetuses,and many know how fetuses are harvested. A vacum x100 stronger ripping off there limbs little by little,for the older ones the limbs are ripped with instruments. So they got the hype from the press,and now abortion is being banned. What now? They work on animals.

EchoSex · Feb 06, 2006, 01:15 AM // 01:15

So esintally you're saying an animals life is more valuable than a human's?

I think I rest my case. Off to Battlefield 2 to commit Cruelty on Pixaliated Beings.

DergeDraconis · Feb 06, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

WOW We can turn pigs green, the cure for all major illness/sickness/ailments is right around the corner~!!

:/

Fatty Fatty Boomballati · Feb 06, 2006, 02:16 AM // 02:16

So why did they turn a pig green?
They could have done a lot better things to it.
or leave them alone.

fiery · Feb 06, 2006, 02:54 AM // 02:54

For Mr.Pies sake every post in this thread is now grammatical and all.

Of course thats what your only thinking that a animals life is just a life. But i said the lives of animals are treated unkindly which you cant admit. Seeing that we both agree the research is best for mankind. Who will fight for the animals, can't you agree locking up hundreds of pigs for a just cause still animal cruelty?

So as to many who would have responded to this thread,without any remorse to the sake of animals, many would have just said.

OMG OMG OMG O MY GAWD freaking green pigs i want one!

Can you feel or read any bias in that sentence above, i think not.

Lou · Feb 06, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Didn't aids start from those crazy green monkies that got loose?

EchoSex · Feb 06, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by fiery

But i said the lives of animals are treated unkindly which you cant admit.

You're right - I CAN'T Admit animals are being treated unkindly or are in a state of cruel treatment... 'cause they aint.

fiery · Feb 06, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Grammar comments removed - PieXags

We see animals captive each day, you think its human nature to disregard it as cruelty. The just cause of curing cancer is on the tip of every humans soul to cure it. Cancer, any ailment to the humankind is a blow to which we must prevail against. Cancer has been here, it affected lives.

But for the animals you can't see that? So if you were an animal lover, ownt a dog? a cat? a fish? Are they no diffrent than the one sitting on your lap? Playing with your computer mouse while doing a GVG? The countless nights just staring at your fish tank watching them swim so carelessly than your the one controlling their lives. Either to not or feed them, clean them. Didn't you post a thread saying the computer is like a pet, may have been you or not.

But isn't the computer a pet, isn't a pet an animal. Would you like your computer with millions of others being experiemented on to cure for the common good? Or would you not fight to get that one computer to be relived. To be free, to not be used as a guniea pig. But yet animal cruelty is not on your heart, but on the bottom of your heel.

It's pointless, its human nature for any man to not give in when he is beaten. He grabs for the littleless thing, he cannot agree on certain terms when he knows the other person is correct. I, said its human cruelty, and you say no. So if not animal cruelty to captive hundreds of animals against their own free will , what do you call it? Survival of Mankind? Animals Lives are worth nothing? Humans are more important? Humans are number one? Animals are crap why fight for their lives if we eat, use them for shelter, and use their bones for tools. On this Earth your either a PLANT or an ANIMAL. What are you?

PieXags · Feb 06, 2006, 03:39 AM // 03:39

...alright, don't turn this into a grammar match. So long as it's COMPREHENSIBLE, and not a hassle to read it's fine. No need to bite at someone for using words you might not necessarily use.

As a whole, I don't think green pigs is a bad thing. I don't think it's animal cruelty. The polio vaccine is a good example---I never asked for it, but it sure as hell helped me. Also, I'm not even sure if pigs can see in color, why the hell would it matter if they can glow in the dark, and are tinted green? I never asked for blue eyes, or for brown hair. But it doesn't hurt me, so I'm fine with it. A green pig to help save lives, I'm alright with that honestly. Also, I'm not even sure how pigs brains work. They might not even remember things that happen over time a set amount of time, hell goldfish can't remember when they ate "breakfast". If I wanted to make a "gold"fish, blue without harming it in any other way. Honestly I don't see who gives a damn. It's not like that fish can even acknowledge what color it is anyway, and if it helped us learn more about the way genetics and all that scientific jazz work that might possibly help the world in the future, then by all means go ahead. I think we can all agree that castrating a pig without painkillers is animal cruelty, or that killing without reason is bad. But you've got to draw the line somewhere.

You say "Did the pigs ask for it?" Of course not! They're pigs! They can't communicate with humans!

If you want to look at it in a sense of "Did the pigs ask for it." Did the pigs ask for their food each morning? Maybe that particular pig doesn't want to be fat. Did the pigs ask to be kept clean when they needed it? Maybe one of the pigs in the pen wanted to be filthy. Did the pigs ask to be cared for at ALL? No, but we do it anyway. Same can be said for any animal. They don't ask for a damn thing. Dogs for instance---Did they ever ASK you to pick them up at the pound and take them home? Nope. But did you do it anyways? Yes. Why? Because YOU wanted a pet.

Think about that for a while, it might help before discussing things like "well how do we know if they wanted it?" when speaking about animals.